Thought For Today…

Something to think about….

“The Socialist Party will no longer be running a candidate for president. The Democratic Party is leading this country to Socialism much faster than we could ever hope to.”–Norman Thomas 1956

And this one….

“The difference between Democrats and Republicans is: Democrats have accepted some ideas of Socialism cheerfully, while Republicans have accepted them reluctantly”—-Norman Thomas

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8 thoughts on “Thought For Today…

  1. Hello Poumista and thanks for stopping by. I am unable at the moment to locate the original place I found this quoted. Suffice it to say, that snopes.com says it is “undetermined” and the origins are still being investigated. The best I can find today is an editor’s note from quotes.liberty-tree.ca saying that the statement came from an interview where it was stated that both parties had adopted the socialist and communist platform. Be assured I am still looking for the source and will post it when I find it. What is the source of your statement that it is a hoax?

  2. Thanks Kathy, see my post here:
    http://poumista.wordpress.com/2009/03/12/uses-and-abuses-george-orwell-and-norman-thomas/

    You can’t prove a negative, so maybe he did say it! I look forward to any fruits of your research.

    Another blogger I posed the same question to said he’d follow the left’s logic on this: they don’t believe there were WMDs in Iraq, but you can’t prove that negative either…

    (Norman Thomas, incidentally, would probably have approved of regime change in Iraq, WMDS or not.)

  3. Pingback: Uses and abuses: George Orwell and Norman Thomas « Poumista

  4. Hi Kathy,

    Saw this comment this morning and have been doing some research of my own, since I also post this quote on my blog for all to see.

    I’ve found the quote used by journalists and authors, as well as bloggers. Bloggers aside, the journalists and authors are too numerous to list; I did a search on google as well as on google.books. I can’t “prove” that Norman Thomas said this, but it seems to be accepted as fact by many writers. I will continue to post it as belonging to Norman Thomas.

    I also checked out the above-linked post, and found it very interesting. The author stated, unless I misread, that we bloggers found it on Wikipedia, and that Wiki in not reliable. I too find Wikipedia to be of questionable reliability, as anyone may enter statements. I found the quote I am using on a quotations page, but have since run across it in several articles.

    Pup

  5. Conservative Pup, Perhaps I was over-stating my case in saying it is a “hoax” and should have simply said I have not found a good source for it, and nor has anyone at wikipedia.

    I am keen to know (and I mean this sincerely) if you have found that any of the many journalists and authors give a reliable source for the quote. It’s my belief that the quote has taken on a life of its own, partly via Wikipedia and particularly via internet quotes resources.

  6. Hello Poumista,

    No, I was frustrated in my efforts to find anyone footnoting the quote. That is what I was hoping to find, the use of the quote with a footnote reference.

    I rarely rely on Wikipedia for rock solid information. Though I do read it, I try to find other supporting sources for what Wiki says.

    You may be right; this is one of those instances where there seems to be no “proof” for either case. You did a lot of work trying to find the truth, as you wrote about in your blogpost, and I appreciated reading that.

    It might be just as you say, that it has taken on a life of its own. If I am ever able to find a concrete and reliable source for it, I will let you know, via your blog. And if you ever find out more information about it, please let me know.

    Sincerely,
    Pup

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